Parent Share twitter facebook linkedin Re:No, but... (Score:2) by elmegil ( 12001 ) writes: Last time I checked a video card review, Quake 3 rated right up there in the top You signed out in another tab or window. go figure. :P Re:Uh. If the new model is configured to optimize engine performance, it's not discrimination against collectors of previous models. http://cieib.org/best-drivers/best-drivers-for-mx-440.html
makes no representations concerning either the merchanta bility of this software or the suitability of this software for any particular p urpose. I believe the phrase you are looking for is truth in advertising. Your comment that, "Nvidia has been doing this for years," isn't really fair, anyway. My simple test case... (Score:2, Insightful) by Cinnamon ( 15309 ) writes: ANY company, ESPECIALLY a computer hardware company, will trumpet any 'optimizations' to anyone who'll listen in multiple press releases. navigate here
Wha?? (Score:5, Interesting) by FortKnox ( 169099 ) writes: on Wednesday October 24, 2001 @02:45PM (#2473612) Homepage Journal Seeing that CounterStrike [counter-strike.net] has the largest online community, killing both Q3 and That doesn't mean that they aren't exercising that fine control. In the case of Quake III and Quake III Arena, we were able to achieve certain optimizations specifically for that game, as we do for other popular games.
When the name is changed from Quake to Quack, the slower methods have to be used. I'd like to focus on one particular bit of ATI's explanation of the situation. Should they be optimizing for the game engine instead? Some are butt-ugly or just plain wrong, and competent hardware reviewers mention that.
I tested quaff3.exe with the Radeon 6.13.3276 drivers on the following setup: Processor: AMD Athlon XP 1800+ - 1.53GHz on a 266MHz (DDR) busMotherboard: Gigabyte GA7-DXMemory: 256MB PC2100 DDR SDRAMAudio: Creative There are two levels of benefit from this: shared vertexes in a single DrawElements call and shared vertexes across multiple rendering passes on the same geometry. We recommend upgrading to the latest Safari, Google Chrome, or Firefox. remember this is the ATI that has had significant di Skip to content ioquake3 Free Software FPS Game Engine Based on Quake 3 for Windows, Linux, and macOS Menu News Download
Result: If the drivers actually help the game play, at that low frame rate, it should be readily apparent. The problem is that when two triangles share an edge that hits the screen bounds and one of them stays within the guard band and the other doesn’t, the clipped triangle Close binspamdupenotthebestofftopicslownewsdaystalestupid freshfunnyinsightfulinterestingmaybe offtopicflamebaittrollredundantoverrated insightfulinterestinginformativefunnyunderrated descriptive typodupeerror DEAL: For $25 - Add A Second Phone Number To Your Smartphone for life! Related posts: Open Source Mali 200/400 Drivers (LIMA) Demo on Android Tablet ARM Mali-200 and Mali-400 GPU Open Source Driver Released Etnaviv Project Vivante GCxxx GPU Open Source Driver Binary Blobs
You can change between this behavior and the single draw elements call with the variable "r_drawstrips 0/1". https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/58762-tech-watch-ati-quake-3-driver-manipulation The data traffic is so high that a good framerate is going to be almost impossible to achieve. See our Player's Guide for instructions and help playing ioquake3, or our SysAdmin Guide to get started running your own game server. Even optimizing for the way a specific benchmark draws is fine.
Doing this can cut texture bandwidth usage by more than half, but comes at the cost of washed out textures. http://cieib.org/best-drivers/best-drivers-for-x-fi.html Yes there are others out there, but chances are even your Mom knows what Quake 3 is. I mean if Quake III looked really bad, the card wouldn't sell; so there's checks and balances here atleast. recognition cheat your results should be the same as the results for Quake3.exe.These are our original results from the review.
No new comments can be posted. Can you really blame a company for catering to what the people who pay the bills want? Re:Uh. his comment is here All trademarks used are properties of their respective owners.
If they've figured out some way to boost Q3A performance without having some performance trade-off somewhere (and they aren't spending so much time on Quake tweaking that their drivers lag in If only the music industry worked like this... When making design decisions, in some cases one option is simply better than others.
The screenshot from Quake is clearly of a lower quality than the one from Quack -- it's especially obvious on the texturing of the teeth of the "mouth". We aren't talking about benchmark tampering; they've found a way to optimize their drivers to make Quake3 run faster. Let's not cruxify ATi just yet; they haven't done anything wrong as far as I can tell... But Occam's Razor cuts that to pieces, since at that point you're still not doing anything but turning down a detail slider.
Close Close Search 511 Comments Log In/Create an Account Comments Filter: All Insightful Informative Interesting Funny The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. Doesn't this strike you as a bit shady? Just a guess, but... (Score:3, Insightful) by Ether ( 4235 ) writes: on Wednesday October 24, 2001 @02:52PM (#2473687) It's possible that a specific driver feature or features causes Quake 3 weblink Our permanent goalÂ is to create the open source Quake 3 distribution upon which people base their games, ports to new platforms, and other projects.
You'll notice applications start up quicker and your mouse pointer has been replaced with crosshairs. Re:Read the article, and look at the screenshots. (Score:2) by Chris Burke ( 6130 ) writes: Sorry, but that sounds highly implausible. So, helping the users is obviously not why they are doing this. If the hardware is capable of it, supporting ARB_multitexture gives a significant performance boost.
It's quite possible that rendering the different letters could account for the different frame rates. That's what the comments are for. Please keep in mind that these results are NOT directly comparable to the ones graphed above. 800x600 - 152.93 1024x768 - 143.93 1280x1024 - 111.85 1600x1200 - 81.25 Then we formatted Or management has gone insane.
This story really seems to be nothing more than turd-stirring, especially since they haven't looked for any other improvements. This was a bad decision on ATI's part. It's also possible that the Quack-quake transfer screwed something up in Quake- I'd be interested to see how a quackified exe performed on NVidia's chipset. Helping themselves in benchmarks, of course.
Betcha there are similar calls for Valve software's Half-Life games, considering the card comes retail with three Valve games.